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[vaxjedi]

This is a bit of a disjointed rant...

eleri posted about her idea for the Temple of the Children of Mercury in her journal. And she got a few responses (including from me). And a few from people on a community she posted it on.

But then time scrolls the post past the first screen of people's friends lists and is forgotton.



So... my question is "why?" I've talked to several people who read it and didn't post, but said it was a good idea, or that it resonated with them, etc. But that's it.

It's kinda frustrating to me, as it is something that I agree with and want and desire. When I still had a grasp of my ministerial call, it was to THAT sort of thing I was drawn. (I'm very much of the 'yes, sex is fun and powerful, let me show you...' school of mystic thought)

Now, I've been focused on my own issues in this area. Admittedly, my pantheon (the Jade Mother, et. al.), Sinnish and my RPG background (I need a name for it) are all roundabout ways to evoke more of the energy that I used to get in such great quantities and great qualities in sex. And I'm using them as creative and spritual outlets.

Blade's Law of Spiritual Reality
If a spirtual epiphany has a trivial effect on your life, it is not real.

I think Eleri's idea is a good one. But if it just stays an idea, it's a loss. There will probably never a cult or Temple of the Children of Mercury or whatever. But if there it has no effect, then it's really a loss for everyone involved or potentially involved.

I'm probably just tired and pissy. Maybe I am like a movie critic, who can dissect and point out flaws, but cannot create. But I'd like something to happen. I am not sure how to make it happen myself, though.

End of Rant.

Comments

[femakita.livejournal.com]

As others said, "I find this very appealing - and very scary, all at the same time".

It wasn't forgotten, but while I think it's a good idea in theory and I hope you find a way to make it work, it's not something I think I could participate in geographically speaking, unless nodes started to fan out or something. Therefore, I didn't have much to say at the time. It seems to me that to encourage comfort levels it would work better with a somewhat stable set of members than whoever's in town for a visit. People one knows online, even very intimately... it takes time to acclimate to their in-person self. That would become exponential if applied to a group of people.

It's too bad nothing like this was constructed at Grinnell, at least not while I was there... or was there? Then again, there may have been too many "issues" to make it work.

Rereading the idea itself, I also remember I had issue with the requirement of "Willing to have sexual encounters with more than one gender(s)" to be a member and yet respecting others' practices and preferences, and having as tenets "mutual attraction" and "mutual enjoyment". I think it's a nice ideal, that flexibility, and clearly one of the main goals is to expand sexual boundaries... at the same time, people are wired how they are wired, and I know I'd be rather uncomfortable feeling I was "expected" to be sexual with other women to be in such a group. And I'm fairly heteroflexible, I would imagine that feeling would only be stronger for a person more hard-wired to be straight.

[eleri.livejournal.com]

I also remember I had issue with the requirement of "Willing to have sexual encounters with more than one gender(s)" to be a member...

Part of that is because I've seen, in way too many groups, the unspoken implimentation of the "Bi Cooties Principle". Girls playing together is cool: guys playing together is not, and you get all these uptight people who will play, as long as they don't get touched by someone of their same gender.

It's impossible to relax and flow into the power, if you're constantly worried about someone freaking out if your hand touches them, or if your cock brushes their ass, or if your lips find their nipple.

[novapsyche.livejournal.com]

When I still had a grasp of my ministerial call, it was to THAT sort of thing I was drawn. (I'm very much of the 'yes, sex is fun and powerful, let me show you...' school of mystic thought)

Okay, you guys supply the sexual ministry, I'll be in charge of the psychoactive substances, and we'll need a third to head the department of rock & roll.

[vaxjedi]

I nominate Meatloaf.

[xiombarg.livejournal.com]

If you want something like that to happen, you need to start recruiting people in Realspace. LJ is not the way to go.

[eleri.livejournal.com]

I'm wanting to polish some of the concepts before I pass it around the local alt-sex groups.

[xiombarg.livejournal.com]

Well, I suggest talking to locals you think are prime candidates, and getting their comments... Start with people in realspace that you trust.

[vaxjedi]

This post came across bitchier than I had intended.

Eleri's post was sorta a Magickal RFC.

Me, I was tired and a little frustrated with my inabiliy to grapple with the concepts and epiphanies that elude me. It was more of 'this seems so easy in my head, why is it so hard?' Just not well said ;)

Though this does remind me of something. Back in the days of the NEST, Dave Leppik said that he thought we were misguided in our attempts to build a community at college because we were all leaving in four years. That seems to happen a lot in my life. I think because I'm an opportunist - I take any chance that comes along to see if it will work. And that's given me an odd network of connections and half-dreams. Not sure I'd trade 'em away, though.

[xiombarg.livejournal.com]

Well, the trick to being an opportunist is to have contingencies for flake-out... And to be willing to invest in the opportunities you DO have.